The Saturn-Neptune Conjunction, Part II: Saturn-Neptune People

S N in Capricorn
Saturn-Neptune Conjunction, 2026,

Part II: Saturn-Neptune People

overall gallery
1809-10: Saturn-Neptune in Sagittarius (Chopin, Carson, Lincoln, Darwin, Gogol, Poe)
1881-83: Saturn-Neptune in Taurus (Gibran, Braque, Fleming, Stravinsky, deMille, Chaney)
1917-18: Saturn-Neptune in Leo (Kennedy, Mitterrand, Hayward, Ford, Spark, Jackson)
1952-53: Saturn-Neptune in Libra (Vajiralongkorn, Jinping, Blair, Oldfield, Judith, Barr, and Myss)
1989-90: Saturn-Neptune in Capricorn (Swift, Hoult, Radcliffe and O’Connor)
Please Read Part I of this article here for the full astrological picture.
Part II of this article drills in to individuals and their chart placements. It is brief but still yields more nuance to the whole Saturn-Neptune cycle. By looking at famous people from history and considering their achievements when born with this conjunction, the varied impact of it is seen full on. Whether it brings spiritual gifts or curses is the question and the evidence is  that is is a dish of mixed blessings, sometimes even bitter ironies. This can help to unearth to what Saturn-Neptune is really all about.
Stalin, because of his death during a Saturn-Neptune conjunction, and Putin, because of his birth, are in this Saturn-Neptune bracket. But I wanted to focus not just on Russia, so the choices take us into a variety of countries besides Russia, namely Poland, Lebanon, France China, Thailand, Canada, the US and the UK. Still, Nikolai Gogol, and Igor Stravinsky pop up to remind us of the link to St. Petersburg.
ProclusEven one of the most admired Neo-Platonist philosophers, Proclus, born February 9th in 412 AD had a Saturn-Neptune conjunction. Perhaps he is a good measure of its true and highest potential? The natives here are just a few of the many born with this aspect, but it includes the gamut of comedians, classical composers, pioneers, poets/mystics, yoga teachers, politicians, painters, scientists, actors, singers, writers and even a reluctant King. This suggests there is no fixed set of qualities in having a Saturn-Neptune in your natal chart but it might not be an easy ride.
This series of mini-astro-biographies covers the years 1809-10, 1882-3, 1917-18, 1952-3 and 1989 only. There was also a Saturn-Neptune conjunction at 26-27° Aquarius in the year 1846. Neptune was discovered at the Autumn Equinox in 1846 so Neptunian influences flowed more to the foreground- interest in Spiritualism and so forth.  This Saturn-Neptune conjunction of 1846 did not coincide with the publication of the Communist Manifesto as AI and some astrologers seem to think. That was two years later in February of 1848 and more to do with the Uranus-Pluto cycle. It is true, however that Neptune and Saturn were co-present in the sign of Pisces.
Lautreamont1846 was also the year that Dostoevsky published his first two novels Poor Folk and The Double. Also, the poet Comte de Lautrėamont (4/4/1846) (Isidore Lucien Ducasse) was born in Montevideo with this conjunction in Aquarius giving Saturn the upper hand as Saturn is the traditional ruler of Aquarius. The conjunction is square to Mars but he had quite enough turbulence going on with a Sun, Pluto, Uranus conjunction in Aries. So I have skipped over 1846 in the choices below for the sake of brevity.
Most of these people are now dead so known only in hindsight. But those born in the Saturn-Neptune in Libra 1952-3 are at their peak now in world affairs with several leaders in their seventies and still very active. This would mean that in 1989 the Saturn-Neptune in Capricorn would have roughly squared their natal Saturn-Neptune in Libra but Saturn moves apart from Neptune most of the time.
Those born in 1989 – the millennials- when Saturn Neptune conjoined in Capricorn are now in their mid-thirties. They have been through their first Saturn Return, and have even been through the rack for a good few years with Pluto rolling over Saturn-Neptune and Uranus in Capricorn- all a time of great transformation for everyone but especially for them as it was on this natal triple conjunction. Several seem to have followed the Neptunian direction and become major film stars like Nicholas Hoult, Daniel Radcliffe, Mia Wasikowska and Josh O’Connor.
Xavier Dolan
Xavier Dolan, Cannes, 2015

Xavier Dolan (20/3/1989) for example became an actor and film director as well very young. He originates from Quebec in Canada. He is something of a prodigy.  His first film I Killed My Mother was released in 2009 when he was aged 19.  But he had started writing on the concept at age 15 while still at school. He works as actor, director, set designer and producer of his own films gaining awards along the way. So this phase of Saturn Neptune looks at first glance like it has more than its fair share of  burgeoning super stars and their careers are not over yet and they may be capable of much more to come.

What we learn from this  review of historical Saturn-Neptune natives is that Saturn and Neptune together embody a lot of tension in the personality, possibly even producing a tormented soul as the case was with Nickolai Gogol and Edgar Allen Poe when the conjunction was in Sagittarius, a fire sign. Saturn-Neptune had a more stable artistic expression however when it was in Taurus where we have Georges Braque, Stravinsky, Cecil B. DeMille and Kahlil Gibran where art, music and film could flourish. The 1952 expression in Libra has its share of political figures and leaders, as Libra has that Cardinal quality but also spiritual teachers.
Saturn-Neptune can have multiple and conflicting expressions and the effects are often very pronounced in terms of ability and talent. It can be a driving creative force that oscillates wildly and could be difficult to manage. This aspect can radically change the way people think. But at the same time the two opposing forces are contradictory, unless the natives can meld the energies in successful ways, perhaps exactly through art, music and film making.  It would all depend on how those with this aspect make sense of it and how they manage to capitalise on its potential.
1809-10: Saturn- Neptune in Sagittarius
S N in Sagittarius 
Charles Darwin (12/2/1809).
DarwinDarwin (Aquarius) shares birth date with Lincoln which I find interesting. Origin of Species (1859) is still a landmark work which contained the contested theory of evolution as ‘natural selection’. Despite scientific consensus on its probability, even today it is seen as a threat to religion and theology as it contradicts the ‘creation’ theories. Is it still true that we only progress through survival of the fittest? Or could we be devolving and history repeats itself in long in cycles? Travelling on the Beagle to Cape Verde, Brazil and the Galápagos Islands, he was a ‘naturalist’ without an academic background in that field. His Saturn-Neptune was square to a triple conjunction of Mercury, Pluto and Jupiter in Pisces. But it was also trine to Venus in Aries.
                                                                                                                                                          Abraham Lincoln (12/2/1809)
LincolnLincoln (Aquarius) shares birth date with Darwin. Lincoln’s role in the American civil war was to emancipate thousands in a campaign a against slavery (Darwin also abhorred slavery). His few words uttered in the Gettysburg address in 1863 are poignant to this day: ‘That this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom’ and ‘that government of the people by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth’.  The division and splitting seen in the States marked the time that Neptune was in Aries in the early 1860s. On April 14th, 1865, Lincoln  shot dead in a theatre in Washington by actor John Wilkes-Booth, the Moon and Vertex were conjuncting that natal Saturn-Neptune in Sagittarius. The transiting North Nodes conjuncted his natal North Node/Uranus in early Scorpio and transiting Saturn was on his natal Mars. His natal Saturn-Neptune points to this fated element is conjunct his MC, square to Mercury in Pisces and his Vertex point in Virgo.  Interestingly the Mercury is conjunct asteroid Ceres too.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Nikolai Gogol (31/3/1809)
GogolGogol (Aries) was an enigmatic character of deep psychological insight yet full of polarising  contradictions. He came from Ukraine yet lauded Russian nationalism so there is a conundrum indeed.  He is famous for works such as the ‘The Overcoat,’  ‘The Nose‘ and ‘The Government Inspector,’ mercilessly satirising bureaucracy. Dostoevsky said of Russian literature in general that  “we all came out from under Gogol’s Overcoat.” The Overcoat is remarkable because it zeroed in on the link between fashion and identity very early on – quite prescient considering this notion did not fully develop until the 20th century. Gogol believed relationships were secondary to the sheer fact of existence and so never married, but he had very intense friendships with men. He was considered a ‘divinely inspired’ satirist.  He often burned his own works in a fervour of spirituality and basically starved himself to death. That visceral inner turmoil might come from the Pluto conjunct Mercury in Pisces that squared the Saturn-Neptune conjunction in Sagittarius.
Kit Carson (24/12/1809)
CarsonCarson (Capricorn) was a frontier spirit and risk-taker of untamed landscapes. Although not tall, he became legendary. He was a trader, trapper and hunter especially of Beaver fur which was in huge demand in the early 19th century. He was able to respect, understand and therefore make deals with the indigenous Indian tribes when no one else could. He even had an ‘Indian’ wife. Two in fact. He lived in the Rockie mountains and could act as guide through the wilderness. So he became known as the ‘mountain man’. He was a crack-shot with a gun and rarely missed and that included killing Indians. Some say his exploits were exaggerated, but he had ‘heroic’ prestige. He even turns up reformulated as Kim Carsons in William Burroughs novel of the ‘wild’ west ‘Place of the Dead Roads’. His Saturn Neptune was conjunct Venus which trines Jupiter in Aries and square to Pluto in Pisces.
Frédéric Chopin (1/3/1810)
ChopinChopin (Pisces) is now regarded as one of the great romantic composers of his day associated with nationalism and known for a strange death at a fairly young age in which they cut out his heart and sent it back to Poland. His work was dismissed as ‘salon music’ for several decades after his death and is only now more lauded and appreciated. This was because he did not write epic symphonies but preludes, impromptus, nocturnes, sonatas, mazurkas, waltzes, études and polonaises.  The melodies however remain in people’s minds. He had a troubled relationship with French author, George Sand, but in his final days, it was his sister who ended up looking after him. He once wrote in astonishment how a clairvoyant managed to find missing money that was sent to him from an anonymous donor in Scotland. Chopin’s music is strangely both temporal and timeless and Arthur Rubenstein said ‘it is like coming home’. His Saturn-Neptune was square to his Venus/Pluto/Sun in Pisces but trine to Uranus in Scorpio.
Edgar Allen Poe (19/1/1809)
PoeEdgar Allen Poe (Capricorn) was master of the gothic tale, but also of poetry, detective fiction and sarcasm. He was also a bitter critic of other authors but eventually after hard work became editor of his own magazine. His book Tales of the Grotesque and Arabesque was full of goose-bump creating tales of the macabre and established his reputation even in Europe. His poem ‘The Raven’ is one of the most well known poems in existence. He was a complex personality. His death in a delirium on October 7th 1849 (just 10 days before Chopin died) still cannot be fully explained.  His influence is so pervasive it is difficult to remove from the explosion of Horror and Mystery in both books and films. His life was dramatic and full of complicated relationships. His Saturn-Neptune was square to a very gnarly intense quadruple conjunction of the Moon, Venus, Jupiter and Pluto in Pisces, perhaps explaining the strange delirious death? But one advantage was that the Saturn-Neptune was sextile the Sun/Mercury in Capricorn so he was able to keep writing steadily during his highs and lows.
1881-3: Saturn-Neptune in Taurus
S N in Taurus                                                                                                                                                  Alexander Fleming (6/8/1881)
FlemingFleming (Leo) is known as the  Scottish-born father of ‘antibiotics’ and of penicilin and is lauded as a great scientist or at least a great bacteriologist. He observed infections among the wounded during WWI. He won the Nobel prize in 1945. His discovery was said to be  ‘accidental’  where mould fell on mucus on a petri dish and set him thinking and that lead to observations about the strange behaviour of bacteria and its resistance.  And that story has become legendary leading some to question its veracity. He died in 1955 and his ashes are buried in St Paul’s Cathedral. His Moon is opposite Venus. He had a powerful stellium in Taurus that sweeps in the Saturn-Neptune but also includes Jupiter, Pluto and Mars just one degree into Gemini. The conjunction squares his Sun and trines to Uranus in Virgo which points to this innovation in detailed medical research to alleviate diseases.
Georges Braque (15/5/1882)                                                                                                    BraqueBraque (Taurus) came from humble beginnings in Argenteuil and broke with tradition in art. He was allied first with the Fauvist movement in 1905. He is perhaps is the painter who deserves the full kudos for pushing forward with Cubism more than Picasso with whom he collaborated. He said that felt like ‘being roped together on a mountain’. Braque’s was a purer form of Cubism than Picasso’s and he explored its possibilities more. His work is full of bold strokes, geometric forms, multiple perspectives and ideas influenced by Cezanne. This lead to the collage, bricolage type of painting that included more than just paint or perspective but used found material and printmaking- all now a commonplace technique in art schools. The Saturn-Neptune was conjunct his Sun in Taurus and so aligned to his life purpose. But it also trines Uranus in Virgo which squares Venus in Gemini.
 
Igor Stravinsky (17/6/1882)
StravinskyStravinsky (Gemini) brings us back to St Petersburg where he was brought up. He exerted a huge influence on modern composers who could hardly keep up with his radical innovation,  versatile changes of style, and his daring ‘tight-rope walking’ edginess. He loved hedonism, and irony in all things. He even owned a vodka distillery and lent money to people. He composed The Firebird, Petrushka and the more pagan-inspired The Rite of Spring for the Ballet Russes squabbling often with Diaghilev. Using atonal rhythms and folkloric rituals, Rite of Spring caused a near-riot in the audience when it premiered in 1913 in Paris. The astrology of that night is probably more about the transiting Sun/Saturn in Gemini on his natal Pluto/South Node and that Neptune was conjunct his natal Venus in Cancer. What’s fascinating is that the transiting North Node was at the 29° of Pisces- that endpoint degree where the old is destroyed and something new is fashioned. It certainly had that cataclysmic effect. He was even born with Pluto at 29° of Taurus and Pluto had moved to 29° of Gemini by 1913. There is a destiny to change the face of music in those placements alone. His natal Saturn-Neptune in Leo was square to Mars in Leo.
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Khalil Gibran (6/1/1883)   

GibranGibran (Capricorn) was a sensitive soul who was influenced by William Blake and Maeterlinck. He is a fascinating figure emerging from the Bsharri mountains of Lebanon who became like a modern day Rumi.  Biographers said of him that his life was “often caught between Nietzschean rebellion, Blakean pantheism, and Sufi mysticism.” He wrote and illustrated the ‘Prophet’ which appeared in 1923 and is one of the most loved prose-poems ever written, translated into dozens of languages and selling millions of copies to this day. Elvis Presley was so obsessed with Gibran he gave out copies of ‘The Prophet’ to anyone who wanted one. A line from a Kennedy speech is borrowed straight from a statement by Gibran- “ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for it”. The Saturn-Neptune in Capricorn is conjunct Pluto and locked in a very solid looking grand Earth trine with Uranus in Virgo and the Sun in Capricorn. His South Node at the mid-point between Saturn and Neptune suggesting he came into this life with this as an imprint.                                                                                                                                                 
Cecil B. De Mille (12/8/1881)
DeMilleCecil B. DeMille (Leo) was an American film director and producer of epic films often on Biblical topics. These films like ‘Samson and Delilah’ (1949) and ‘The Ten Commandments’ (1956) became highly influential seen as the pinnacle of excellence the cinematic techniques if not the script. His films included memorable special effects such as that used for Moses parting the Red Sea. His previous work in the silent era often included highly melodramatic scenes in bathtubs or with lions. He helped in the founding of Paramount Studios and was on-and-off for or against the unions depending on who was leader. He was an active Mason as member of the Orange Lodge. He died of a heart attack after a series of attacks. The Saturn-Neptune is conjunct Jupiter in Leo and trine to Uranus in Virgo. Neptune in Leo often indicates prominence in film. With Saturn there too it made him a ‘master’ of the craft.
                                                                                                                                                   Lon Chaney (1/4/1883)
Lon Chaney Senior (Aries) was born on April Fool’s day to deaf mute parents so he learned to express himself quickly. He created classic characters on silent screen such as Quasimodo in the Hunchback of Notre Dame and the Phantom of the Opera. He captured people’s secret fears- the shadow side of the collective psyche – yet still could evoke pity and compassion in audiences and fellow actors. He mingled elements of bathos with the grotesque. He was able to do his own his own original make up, being the prosthetics designer as well as the actor. He was even honoured by the Marines for his portrayal of a Marine Sergeant.  But he could also dance and do his own agile stunts. The success was so great that he earned the nick name ‘man of a thousand faces’. He had tremendous charisma. The Saturn Neptune is conjunct Pluto -interesting as he had this plasticity of his appearance and acting and could mould himself as desired, to be clown or monster. The triple conjunction links to an Earth Trine with the Moon in Capricorn and Uranus in Virgo which ensured a successful career cut short when he died at the age of 47.
1917-18: Saturn-Neptune in Leo
S N in Leo
                                                                                                                                                        John F. Kennedy (29/5/1917)
KennedyJ.F. Kennedy (Gemini) is the second American president who was assassinated on the list-so that could be a message for presidents to watch out When Saturn and Neptune conjoin. JFK as he is known was seen as the golden boy of the Kennedy dynasty in the United States who was poised to save America in the early sixties and lead them into a modern era.  He possibly had satyriasis, and became sexaholic. Then tragedy struck. The violence of his public killing and the messy cover up that went with it still reverberates very loudly today with question marks hanging. On that day in Dallas, 22nd November 1963, not only was J.F.K experiencing a Nodal Reversal on the Capricorn-Cancer axis, which is very fated, he also had Uranus/Vertex/Pluto on his Moon in Virgo but transiting Saturn in Aquarius was actually square to Neptune in Scorpio so it had something to say.
               
François Mitterrand (26/10/1916)
MitterrrandMitterrand (Scorpio) was the leader of the ‘socialist’ party in France during the 1970s, longer than previous presidents. He was an opponent of De Gaulle. As a young man he was involved in the Vichy Government during WWII which was accused of cooperating with the Nazis in the round up of French Jews, but he later joined a faction that split off so avoided the accusations himself. This adaptability meant he switched views expediently to stay ahead, with his eye on power. He became that common hybrid the ‘moneyed-socialist’. His presidency was beset by numerous scandals. Often they involved his mistresses but there were also a couple of suspicious ‘suicides’ of ministers in his government and the admission of an illegitimate daughter. He had Pluto on his MC. The Saturn-Neptune conjunction was at the apex of a T-Square with Jupiter (associated with political careers) and the Sun/Moon across signs Libra/Scorpio and that trines the Pluto on the MC.                                                                       
Susan Hayward (30/6/1917)
HaywardSusan Hayward (Cancer) was a tough girl from Brooklyn called Edith Marrener. She wanted to be a star but was rejected frequently so she polished up her accent to talk more smoothly and then took on Hollywood. She was said to be arrogant and a ‘tough cookie,’ yet she was also frugal but wore a mink coat as a symbol of her success which she relished. She was known  for her volatile temper and excessive drinking (Moon square Uranus trine Sun/Pluto). She was punished for refusing lightweight roles, but worked hard on her acting and was highly regarded as a professional. She was bold enough to portray a feisty alcoholic woman- a role made for her- but avoided by most other actresses and even a murderess in ‘I Want To Live‘. Her Saturn-Neptune is in Leo but conjunct Venus across signs in Cancer. Neptune’s placement in Leo is often a marker of the glamorous film star.
                                                                                                                                                  Betty Ford (8/4/1918)
FordBetty Ford (Aries) was the ‘First Lady’ wife of US President Gerald Ford who took over when Nixon resigned in 1974. She was born Betty Bloomer and her father died in what could have been a suicide. Troubled by addiction to prescription drugs and with a growing drink habit she was not aware was actually ‘alcoholism’ (her Moon in Pisces opposes Mars in Virgo), she descended into ill health almost to point of  no return. Then she pulled herself out of it and restored her health and established a clinic for rehabilitation to help others do the same. This candour and courage in facing her problems head on and going public with it gained her much respect. She even revealed she’d had cancer and a mastectomy.  Her Saturn-Neptune is square to Mercury in Taurus, hence the boldness in speaking out.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Muriel Spark (1/2/1918)
SparkMuriel Spark (Aquarius) brings in her own words a challenge to the mind’s eye in her stories. She spent time in Africa in her youth and then after divorcing her husband struggled for money in Kensington with a young child. She was editor of the Poetry Review at a young age. She had an original voice with an off-the-wall Catholic sensibility. She converted to Catholicism in 1954. The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie (1961) is a classic of its kind but all her other novels like Memento Mori and Girls of Slender Means can be just as funny and devilishly provocative. She hated ‘timid’ writers so more than compensated for that by taking risks in her writing. She was allowed her own room at The New Yorker. This puckish quality and the sheer economy of words gives her work an unmistakable edge. She was spiky and acerbic to the end. Her Saturn-Neptune is opposite the Sun in Aquarius so perhaps all the snapping tension in the writing came from that- the ‘spark’ as it were? But the Moon/Mars in Libra square to Pluto in Cancer probably helped.
Shirley Jackson (14/12/1916)
JacksonJackson (Sagittarius) was one of the great supernatural horror story writers. She also claimed to be a witch of a kind, often just to deter people from bothering her when she was doing her work (Moon square Venus). She wrote trivia too but has a special liking for horror and said “I delight in what I fear” (Pluto opposite Mars/Mercury). The Haunting (1963) is a film based on her novel of the same name. It set the standard for this kind of supernatural house story and has been freely copied in repeated film versions but the Wise (1963) version has never really been equalled. And her short story ‘The Lottery’ (1948) which appeared in The New Yorker is held as the model of powerful short story telling in Creative Writing schools and anthologies across the USA. It certainly touched a deep nerve about all that is hidden under the surface of the collective psyche. She was fiery as she had Sun, Moon and Ascendant in fire signs. Her Saturn-Neptune conjunction, also in the fire sign of Leo  is square to Jupiter in Aries.
1952-53: Saturn-Neptune in Libra
N P in Libra

King Maha Vajiralongkorn (28/7/1952)

VajiralongkornThe King of Thailand (Leo) has been King Maha Vajiralongkorn (Rama X) since 2016. Vajiralongkorn means ‘adorned with jewels or thunderbolts’. But he had a reluctant phase on taking the throne. He asked for a delay to be able to mourn with the people the death of his father King Bhumibol. He is trained as a pilot and schooled in Australia, England and the USA. He even threw a 4-day funeral for his pet poodle. But he is a progressive and has given permission for gay marriage in Thailand which is unusual in such a conservative country. What’s fascinating to me is that his Saturn-Neptune is conjunct asteroid Eros, giving it a distinctly sexual flavour. It certainly appears to have promoted rumours about his sexual proclivities and has caused him much scandal including hints of gambling. Thai media law however prevents any criticism of the Royal family which is hugely respected so the details cannot be confirmed. His Saturn-Neptune sandwiches the Moon at the midpoint of the two planets which squares Uranus in Cancer. Plus he has Venus conjunct Pluto in Leo opposite his North Node.

 
Xi Jinping (15/6/1953)
JinpingXi Jinping (Gemini) disappeared for 14 days in 2012 before he reemerged as head of the CCP. Information is scarce about what happened to him. He came from a family of industrialists and his father actually criticised Chairman Mao so he lived through perilous times of the Cultural Revolution of the 1960s. He studied chemical engineering and made contacts in among the military and political personnel he worked with. With patience and a low profile, he rose through the ranks of the CCP to become one of the chief engineers of policy for China. He then disappeared and became head. He is a classic strategic bureaucrat working mainly behind the scenes and with the heavily controlled media in China, it is difficult to confirm that gathering of biometric data has gone too far, rogue electronic parts in solar panels and kettles are entering other countries by the back door, or whether the collapse of the Chinese economy is for real or merely rumoured. His chart is prominent now as Eris and Chiron currently oppose his natal Saturn/Neptune in Libra; and the Pluto opposite Mars is triggering his North Node in Aquarius. He is apparently in a recent announcement he is going to rebuild Yemen which has been destroyed by Western forces.
                                                                                                   
Tony Blair (6/5/1953)
BlairBlair (Taurus) is a British politician who was Prime Minister from 1997-2007. His rise to power is associated with 90s ‘Brittania’ and the death of Lady Diana in 1998 when he spoke to the nation and liaised with the Queen. He was the youngest Prime Minister at age 43. He has a smooth-talking style yet has also been accused of being a war criminal for his role along with Bush Jnr in starting the second Gulf War in 2003. He is forever associated with the phrase ‘weapons of mass destruction’ which turned out not to exist. He converted to Catholicism the day after being Prime Minister sponsored by his wife Cherie. Whether you believe Blair is a force for good or ill, he is arguably more powerful now than he ever was in the Labour party, as he pushes agendas that go contrary to existing governments and public opinion. He has more than 800 staff in 40 countries through his various organisations. His Saturn-Neptune opposes Mercury and Venus in Aries but is also sextile to Pluto in Leo. But that Pluto is opposite his Moon intensifies that polarity rather than softens it.
                                                                                                                                                        Michael Oldfield (15/5/1953)
Oldfield (Taurus) is a music composer from Reading, England. He joined Kevin Ayres band on the bass guitar, but he rose to fame suddenly because of a film (Neptune). His farfisa organ refrain from Tubular Bells was played in ‘The Exorcist’ (1973). He was only 19 when Tubular Bells was released yet he played all of the 20 instruments in its composition but he had started it the year before in November 1972. It starts with a simple motif and then builds slowly and the music expands through all its variations. This created the unsettling tone and atmosphere in that classic film and from that flowed the money for Richard Branson to expand his empire at Virgin Records. Structured music such as Tubular Bells might be a key descriptor Saturn combined with Neptune. His Saturn-Neptune opposes Venus in Aries and squares Uranus in Cancer- that’s a cardinal T Square. But the Saturn-Neptune is also sextile to Pluto in Leo.
Anodea Judith (1/12/1952) 
JudithAnodea Judith (Sagittarius) is from Ohio. She is a pubic speaker, therapist, yoga teacher and author of several books such as Wheels of Life: A User’s Guide to the Chakra System. She is on the faculty at the Kripalu centre for Yoga and Health. She blends elements of mythology, psychology, bio-energetics, systems theory, biology and mystic spirituality. Even shaman monks on retreats in Bali use Anodea Judith’s ideas for energising the chakra system with crystals placed on that part of the body. So, her influence reaches far and wide. She has one of the signature aspects for Yogis and Yoginis -which is Jupiter square Mars. The Saturn/Neptune conjunction is at the apex of a T. Square with Venus in Capricorn opposite Uranus in Cancer.  It is also sextile to Pluto in Leo.
Caroline Myss (2/12/1952)
MyssMyss (Sagittarius) was born just a day after Anodea Judith. She can be an inspiring speaker on subjects like grace, intuition, self development and mystical states of mind. She works as a medical intuitive. She comes out with gems like “Collective events are created by collective psychic free radicals” which is a modern spin on Jung’s theory which proposes that personal neurosis is projected into the collective realm. She often asks you to imagine what it would be like to have her as ‘your spiritual director’ acting like a tough-talking life coach with a strong Chicago accent encouraging any spiritual development. She is also a researcher and teacher specialising in the field of medical intuition, the chakra system, Saint Theresa of Avila and practical mysticism. Her set of Archetypes cards is useful. Her Saturn-Neptune is actually a focal point in her chart as it is at the apex of a T-square squaring Venus in Capricorn and Uranus in Cancer.  But it is also one corner of a grand mini-trine with the Moon in Gemini and Pluto in Leo.
1988-89: Saturn-Neptune Conjunction in Capricorn.   

The planet Uranus was also in the mix here in Sagittarius for a time during 1988-89 making this conjunction a triple whammy for those with all three close in their charts.  These people are still only in their mid-30s and have a decade to go before even their Uranus opposition.

      S N in Capricorn                                                                                                                                                         Taylor Swift (13/12/1989)

SwiftSwift (Sagittarius) is currently one of the most popular singer-songwriters around at the moment, especially with a younger audience who fanatically adore her. She was influenced by Shania Twain, hence the fusion of Country and Pop in her style. She was a Grammy award winner very young, and has a net worth of over 1.1 billion with song lyrics dissing her ex-boyfriends which fans seem to love. So she is much admired on Social media with girl fans who can go feral from time to time. However, opinion is divided about her: some say she is the best and brightest thing in music, honest and relatable, but others say her sound is bland and it lacks complexity. They say her voice has no distinct features and her rise to fame is overhyped and too aligned to political agendas to be real. The Saturn-Neptune is a part of a stellium in Capricorn that includes Uranus and Mercury. But it opposes Jupiter and the Moon in Cancer which adds incredible tension and explains the polarisation from what is basically a see-saw shaped chart.
                                                                                                                                                        Nicholas Hoult (7/12/1989)
HoultHoult (Sagittarius) is very talented actor who started as a child in the film About a Boy (2002) and had a breakthrough role in A Single Man (2009). He went on to play roles in X Men and Clash of the Titans. His great aunt was Dame Anna Neagle. Has recently played Peter III in the Hulu series ‘The Great’ so there’s a link here to the founding of St. Petersburg in1703 by Peter III’s grandfather, Peter the Great, but also that Hoult himself actually likes to play pranks just like Peter III in the series. Peter III is described as ‘a child in a man’s body’ and was ousted and outwitted by his wife Catherine in a palace coup. Hoult’s chart is similar to Taylor Swift with Uranus in the Saturn-Neptune configuration, but he also has both Pluto and Mars in Scorpio adding to his sex appeal.
                                                                                                                                                        Daniel Radcliffe (23/8/1989)
RadcliffeRadcliffe (Leo) is most famous as the boy star who got to play Harry Potter in the film series. It was so hugely successful that he has struggled to avoid being typecast from that role as the boy-wizard. The Saturn-Neptune is conjunct Uranus here and I always felt that the Uranus part of this triple conjunction is symbolised by the lightning bolt Voldemort curse- a scar that appeared on Potter’s forehead. His Saturn-Neptune and Uranus is square to his Moon in Aries and that triple combo opposes Jupiter in Cancer, making him quite volatile, full of energy and feeling, perhaps explaining the very public fight he has had over the ‘Trans’ issue with the author of the book that made him famous.
Josh O’Connor (20/5/1990)
Josh O'ConnorFinally just to add another candidate to watch. Josh O’Connor (Gemini) is now a well-known face in the film world having made his breakthrough role as the tormented and repressed farmer in ‘God’s Own Country’ (2017). He has gone on to play Prince Charles in The Crown and in films like La Chimera (2023) and Challengers (2024). He is known as a ‘shapeshifter’ of an actor who is able to become totally lost in the character. This emphasises one of the themes of this aspect- how changeable, contradictory the energy can be, if you can handle it.  By 1990 The Saturn-Neptune was separating so  the conjunction in his chart is 9° apart but O’Connor’s Vertex is right at the midpoint so he also belongs in this group of ones to watch as they mature in the coming years.
Part 1 is here for all the background on the Cycle, the History and the Forecast.

© Kieron Devlin, Proteus Astrology, 20th May, 2025

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